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Torsion value vcds 0 GT TDI (BKD) Camshaft position sensor/VCDS torsion value – 06-12-2021, 10:17 PM I’ve seen bizarre numbers on cheap eBay cam sensors and also when the cam pulley tabs get damaged. Hansdampf Junior Member. However, early on, we had a Passat Wagon that lost 4 mpg when we set the torsion value to I have checked the torsion value in vcds and it's in spec at 0. 0 and need to check torsion value. mentionez ca am schimbat distributia de <1000km si nu s-a facut atunci verificare cu vcds. In other words, adjust your torsion value such that the Idle Smooth values for each cylinder are as close to each other and to zero as possible. 30 posts 1; 2; Next; VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: water01, vwnutant, desertstorm. Members; 303 to brim it in the same manner and then you will have a definitive mpg figure and we can advise you of the correction value for VCDS. 9L TDI BRM engine. Post by acom » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:37 am It's value Running VCDS 18. More. Joined May 18, 2000 Location columbia,MO,usa TDI '05 Passat Variant, Still miss the 03JW Dec 24, 2014 #2 Prior to my cam replacement on my Did mine today, had to move in the opposite direction to what I thought, a minus value does not mean that the timing is retarded, I had to retard the pulley, the initial advance took it outside of limits but showed zero on VCDS, - BEWARE IF YOU SEE THIS! unlikely you will have got it right first time as you will have overestimated the finesse required, zero value also VCDS Group 4 Engine Idle Speed : Injection Duration : Torsion Value : VCDS Group 15 Engine Torque : Fuel Consumption : If you could do the above with no power consumers on, and then engine up to temperature I'd really appreciate it. I freaked out and drove real slow towards home. A torsion value of -62 KW is not credible. 7 ,the car was at 2. Changed the timing belt and ElsaWin says that is the job done but it is not!I was informed by a helpful forum member that there is a VCDS measuring block Hello everyone Im trying to see/set the cam timing but unable to find torsion value think it was group 004 if memory is right, did we rename it or change the group #? work on 2010 TDI Thank you all in advance SteveOOO Apr 11, 2022 #4 . 7 posts · Joined 2018 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Feb 19, 2018. I have no hope lol Where do i go from here my letres per hour is . 4-. Hi all, My B6 2. 9 77kw (PD) BXE, and for now I set torsion value (engine block 4 on vcds) at 0. Sveiki. 36 not sure on the rest until i can get hold of vcds. Jun 15, 2017 #2 Any one know? I don't fancy stripping down the front end to acess the belt to check it again if I don't need to. If you're noticing a lack of power at higher RPM right after a timing belt change, I strongly suspect the cam timing is a bit off. 0 but I have adjusted the timing gear on the cam in every position. 5 torsion value he told me to get timing done and go back a third time to get map fine tuned. 97 (Vag recommends -1. stima ! Torsion value is good ( 0,0 KW) and no fault codes in engine module. 0 tri pd 2009 years. That doesn't sound like much but it is noticeably more than my ALH and my sister (the owner) notices it. Still getiting 50mpg+ on a run. 0 to 0. 000 Km de la schimbarea distributiei (la 115. We use the VCDS block 15 liter per hour block to get the I saw people using group 4 engine module, and torsion value should be near 0. In UDS modules (which the OP seems to indicate he's The larger box to the left of the Nm box, on our US timing cover label shows the initial Torsion Value (VCDS/engine module/ measuring blocks/ Block 4), set at the factory. I had a code show it was camshaft position sensor. 05 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 1-0. Quote. He have checked torsion value with VCDS, and it says that it has a retarded torsion value of -5,5. I have golf 5 1. The boxes from left to right are engine speed (828), injection start (5. Deleted member 15819 Guest. Thank you Mecanicul a nimerit din prima, adica dupa prima incercare de reglare pe VCDS arata 0 grade. Im am checking the torsion value with my vcds & its at 4. New water pump, tensioner, idler , belts. Isn't this meaning that SOI happens before top dead center? But negative torsion value in group 004 means retarded, right? So I don't understand this . First check showed -1. you have to use 13 spanner 16 spanner Got a 2005 A3 2. 4. I changed timing belt of mu Skoda Octavia mk2 1. com VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ5H088373 License Plate: KR05UYY Mileage: 395640km-245839mi Repair Order: Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW I would suggest getting a VCDS scan and get readouts for several groups: - torsion value - injector balance - MAF readings - turbo response "Torsion value' refers to the offset angle of the camshaft against the crankshaft position as measured by the car ECU (there is a crank position sensor and a cam position sensor in your car) . spiking could be the actuator is the wrong length . 30 posts 1; 2; Next; On a single cam engine like AWX, the way to adjust torsion value (VCDS group 4, value 4) , is to loosen the 3 bolts, move the cam a tiny bit, and then fasten the 3 bolts again, and then one have moved the timing from like -1. Remember the front cam adjusts torsion & the rear will have to be adjusted to suit although there is no way of checking the rear on VCDS, rough idle is a sign the rear cam is out The torsion value is not in basic settings (shareware dose not allow this) Like DuncanA2 quoted @RAB there is believers and non believers, for me so far the figures dont lie and have changed my opinion too! Last edited: 24 #62 audifan said: @fhl VCDS mobile is for their Hex-Net adapter ONLY. It is quite normal for the reading to flick between 2 readings for example mine Sorry for hijacking the tread but i want to ask the same thing. 3 5. ] cant seem to find a thread on cam timing adjustment and i think i am in need of this, having rung a few garages and explained that my torsion value is 6. 1 and 1. 0 was a good figure Hello, I need to know witch cam is the one to set up correctly the torsion value on VCDS, because my engine has 16v dual cam and at the first start, the engine has too long crank. They Show in KW , I know a version of VCDS I had previously showed Torsion value. You are getting 47. 5yrs before I finally changed it and didn't vary more than . 0°KW. 5° at idle, which is pretty far off of zero, but not out of the (wide) range of values that people in various forums have set it to and claimed improvements in power or fuel economy. Because of the cost of a MAF sensor I want to make sure that going to fix it Well that made me suspicious so when I got home I checked the torsion value with vcds. 0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0. Has also tried +1. 5 and the mileage came right back. Joined Jun 24, 2017 Messages 45 Reaction score 10 Location UK Monday,26,June,2017,15:45:34:28586 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. However, early on, we had a Passat Vagcom/VCDS camshaft torsion reading. 4643. 5 as it was as close to 0. 5, and i adjusted it to 0. 1 or . 5kw with acceleration applied to 2k rpm in the driveway. 5 value. Daily drive of 26ish miles highway at 70-79mph on the speedo then rural 35mphish 2 miles, Found it pretty easy to do. The car starts and runs fine, but when I check it with VCDS block 004 it's always 0, now. 50 help the starting? Firstly the torsion setting I have noticed on several sites, some people are regarding a negative value as a retarded setting and a positive value as a advanced setting, this is the opposite to what I am seeing, as I adjust the camshaft with the 18mm centre bolt in the direction of rotation (advancing the camshaft) this adjustment shows on vcds Just as an update for anyone who may find themselves in the same situation in the future - yes, i guess on *some* versions of VCDS lite, torsion value comes up as "steering angle sensor". Shouldn't the ECU regulate the idle speed better? If I manually give it throttle when it's running at 750 RPM I can prevent it from I decided to have a look at the torsion value on my golf using VAGCOM. 4KW. . diddles Active Member. 9 PD engine. 9kw at idle (torsion value based on VCDS engine/mass/04) b. Modificat 24 Noiembrie, 2011 de mars01 VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: water01, vwnutant, desertstorm. Joined Jun 26, 2011 Location Near Seattle WA TDI '05 B5. Wednesday,08,April,2020,11:54:18:62543 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 20. Of course I may find that Skoda just set the ECU calcs 13% optimistic. 5, it means your belt is timed perfectly. If omitting to do cam timing to zero torsion value results in a 13% drop in fuel economy or if a belt can stretch that much over time then thats a lot of wasted fuel. de fflorynn, 24 Octombrie, 2010 în Passat B6. 000 Km), Torsion value (Grup 4, camp 4 pe modulul Engine, VCDS) era de 2. Go to Engine Measuring Blocks Group 004 but the basics settings button is greyed out! If I go to basic settings instead of measuring blocks, ive only got two options, egr and charge control or something. 5kw. 14 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 4 Tuesday,29,May,2012,21:47:44:51465 VCDS Version: Release 11. If I plug it into my 06 Jetta TDI it shows up, but with the Passat it doesn't. I squirted a little bit of starting fluid into it and it fired which makes me think its a fuel problem. Tags mk4 golf. Can anybody confirm what the golf mk5 1. Torsion Value = between 4. 30 posts 1; 2; Next; Measured value block 4 is where you need to be and look at the 4th value, this is your torsion value and should be as close to zero as possible with a tolerance of +/- 0. I tried to advance this value to 0. I had a look at the Advanced Measuring Values for this vehicle's engine controller and there does not appear to be any [torsion value] data. Go to Engine Measuring Block 011; Start Logging the data; Норми за Torsion Value - VCDS? От Germanecaa 15 Март 2017 в тип 8P. 25 (Measured from VCDS, Group 4) A sample of of Injection La unele modele in VCDS Syncro angle apare ca Torsion value. 5 - 36 = difference of 11. Select Post; Deselect Post; Link to Post; Back to Top; Post by Joaquin on Oct 13, 2017 14:13:01 GMT. Save Share The confusion arises because "torsion value" is the strange name that is sometimes used for the mechanical timing between the cam and crank on PD engines. 0? 2 care este valoarea corecta pentru torsion value, sau mai bine zis cum se determina am atasat valorile din vcds. More sharing options vlahdacoroman. The first thing i wanted to do was check the timing by looking at the torsion value. 11. On the VAG 2. 30 posts 1; 2; Next; Only explanation they gave me was timing is -2. Nice thing about messing with the torsion value is that it's a 5 mins job (Loosen came sprocket bolts, and rotate the cam ever so slightly either clockwise or counter clockwise depending on if you want to raise or B6 2. Let me know. 12. I didn't have VCDS so I decided to wing it and adjust it and see what happened. Ja paljon se pitäisi olla nokkapyörä optimaalisesti Hello, I have a P0101 code on my 2004 Jetta TDI/5 Speed. 0 , I only adjusted the rear to suit as the position is meant to be identical (part of what the Cam-belt locking kit is meant to do). Jump to Latest 5. 9 litre BRM motor with 90000 miles. If torsion value and the idle fuel Hi all, hope you can help :) I have VCDS and on the first day of scanning the engine I noticed that my torsion value is way out (was around 4 degrees) So I watched hundreds of videos online as well as read a lot of articles to find out what needs to be done and then done the fix which now fixed rough start from cold as well as torsion value is When it comes to Advanced Measuring Values, I don't think a "common answer" is possible. Last edited: Jun 15, 2017. 0 is bad, making me comfused. We tended to figure that 0. Each time, the car start, run few minutes, but no difference on the torsion value. Just gets poor mpg like 38 is average. El valor de torsion y la sincronizacion angular es lo mismo . Verified. The decimal point is as Europeans use, a comma. 0, which was good for having set the timing with the timing belt tools. 9 the torsion value fluctuated in idle, all the time. It was +. Thread starter Questor; Start date Aug 15, 2011; Q. I checked my daughters Jetta too & its the same value. Members; 2. Should I try a more advanced setting, like 1. In urma acestei reglari nu s-a modificat mare lucru, consumul este ok, ca inainte, porneste parca putin mai greu, adica inainte pornea brutal de repede, acum parca mai invarte o data si dupa aia porneste. 8 1. 6 ltr/ hr. and start again but with tiny barely perceptible movements checking them each time on Monday,02,December,2024,15:50:07:43124 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64 VCDS Version: 24. But I'd love to hear the views from the PD gods! Thanks all - If got this thread set to notify so I'll be hot on replies. I've been trying to get it going and the first problem I noticed was my torsion value. 1 x64. 0 i could get i was expecting a major change to the way it felt and drove but feels about the same,noticed that my mpg seems a little lower on the dash MFD now Is it possible that a defectuous camshaft sensor gives us a false torsion value in VCDS? Fast reply please Best regards Dec 21, 2023 #12 . I don't know where you would find a similar "torsion" value in VCDS, but I suspect there must be one. The torsion value is located in VCDS/Engine Module/ block 4/ torsion value. The problem is when I check on my VCDS, the torsion value was at 0. Jun 24, 2017 #1 . 9 MB · Views: 737 20220130_153748. Hi all, Can you check torsion value with VCDS lite or do you need the full version, changed TB (ASZ PD130) and want to check it I have done vast research over 1000 km just test driving and setups on tdi cam timing or torsion value as it is said on vag tdi. 2 on idle , is that normal? Should it move that much or at all on idle? car is harder to start since a recent timing belt job. VCDS (VAG-COM Diagnostic System) is Windows-based software that allows a PC to act as a diagnostic tool for VW/Audi/SEAT/Skoda vehicles. the cars starts right up. 5 mpg but the MFD says 36 mpg = overestimating the consumption. 8/-3. Joined Jan 4, 2022 Messages 124 Reaction score 12 Location France VCDS Serial number HUC-2H. 2010 Golf GTD (170) CBBB, 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack On a single cam engine like AWX, the way to adjust torsion value (VCDS group 4, value 4) , is to loosen the 3 bolts, move the cam a tiny bit, and then fasten the 3 bolts again, and then one have moved the timing from like -1. Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. His 1's looks like a 7's. 1 and 2. The value sometimes changes slightly (0. I changed the timing belt and after I tried to set the torsion value with vcds. So, I'm going to have to do fine tune the camshaft timing as described here: How to adjust rough idle and camshaft timing on VW and Audi TDI pumpe duse engine Also check the camshaft torsion value as that can affect MPG . The lowest read will still be a range of about 1 degree. Diagnostics & VCDS; All Activity; Home ; General Forums ; Diagnostics & VCDS ; Torsion value on Snap-on diagnostic? READ ME - iOS Notifications - How To Enable - Guide. So I decided to look around at other stuff. 4 moves anywhere from 0. truman Top Post Dawg. HOWEVER - I DO NOT HAVE A TORSION VALUE IN MEASURING GROUP Supposedly the TB (and W/P, but not roller/tensoner)was changed, recently, just before I bought the car (2005 BEW) at 104K Miles. I commute about 30k a year, so a small increase in mileage is a good thing. 4 Ive attached a pic of the data log which has the torsion value on it, also the smooth idle injection data. But when I go into Engine, the Measuring Blocks button is greyed out. Q: That's great, so what can I do with it? Well, here is a partial list: The MAF is OK if the actual value is at least 850-900 mg/h at 3000 rpm. This one is dead on zero in idle. That's weird, because with my VCDS, on 01-engine, meas blocks - 08, I just replaced the head on my 2006 Jetta 1. For the Mk7 cars, with the EA288 TDI engine, I haven't seen a whole lot of information about it. It is possible that the manufacture's The torsion value in VCDS reads -5. 2 max and mainly not at all throughout the rev range. I But it would be running I think on the default value of 0 for torsion as the cam sensor and crank sensor are not close enough( even if the cam timing is right the cam sprocket is out a distance of one tooth). Checked torsion value and it is 2. 5 to -2. Would I be wasting my time or is it worth doing, thanks When checking the torsion value (which I've done before but years ago) it's jumping around anywhere between 15 & 60°KW. So I couldn't wait, and was able to meet up with someone local off of vwvortex kind enough to let me use his VCDS tool to set the torsion value and I encountered a couple interesting things. 30 posts 1; 2; Next; VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: water01, desertstorm, vwnutant. Chiseled out all the carbon that I could. Posted 21 August, 2019. Torsion value in VCDS is 0 at this time. 11 posts · Joined 2017 Add to quote; Only show this user #8 So I did a VCDS log of blocks 003, 004 and 013 on a 27 mile journey (mostly A roads). 50 in the box. Has 0. How did you set crank tdc when your "cam sprocket crown is down to the right" If VCDS is showing that the torsion is correct I believe that the timing belt job was done correctly. 5. 0 was a good figure and originally let it go at that. The crankshaft and the People have reported increase in fuel consumption and/or loss of performance with increase in torsion value away from 0. 0 is this good? Some forums says -1, -2,5 etc is good and some says 0. -1. I have never heard it used for VE engines. 0kw at idle! I'm guessing this isn't good!. Last edited: Jan 9, 2012. When idling the engine rocks and judders physically making the car move - not only this but the exhaust fumes are horrendous they make your eyes water. Obviosuly i want to get the timing as close to 0. Hi all have a pd130 was just wondering if anyone's experimented with torsion value and what value is your pen car set to, if its advanced or retarded. 5 As its been a few years now and I no longer have access to ODIS or a VW the next vital value is by memory, I',m pretty certain you also need to view value block 1 (maybe 2) and look at the VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: vwnutant, desertstorm, water01. I found that when I started getting it close to where the torsion value should be it Torsion Value Oct 13, 2017 14:13:01 GMT via mobile . 5 and guessing should be around 0-1 Code: The torsion value is about getting the the camshaft at the correct angle relative to the crankshaft. Posted 24 September, 2013. (No load) (torsion value based on VCDS engine/mass/04) c. We also will run block 15 at 2000rpm, looking for the lowest fuel usage. As for changing the cam timing (or torsion value as it's referred to in VCDS) some guys see a decent gain running +1. Sender wheel appears to be fine. 00. 3 www. Another guy says, that it is only at the timing La mine, motor BKP, dupa 25. But now car lacks power,and fuel comsumptin went higher. Uwe Benevolent Dictator. Since I have owned it from 77k+ on a Daily drive. Lookin into my lock switch issue. 5 divided by (computed) 36 x 100 = 32% over-read I am not the best at explaining things especially without the correct terms and VCDS often has confusing terms like But I cant find a Torsion value data on it, its not have? Or just different name? It's about skoda superb 2. If the torsion value is retarded or advanced, could it trow the code? comments sorted by Best Top New Checked it again today with VCDS showing torsion value -2. 8 ltr/ hr. We just changed the fuel filter in it and I hooked it up to my VCDS to look at some things and I noticed that the timing torsion value is -2. The wiring from the ECU to the sensor shows 5V, 5V, and 0V. Out of range is reported as "0. I have been to 4 garage and when i mentioned torsion value they looked at me like i just walked off a ufo and didn't know what i was on about. 60l/h for the exhaust cam. Also called synchro angle, group 04 vcds. We use the VCDS block 15 liter per hour block to get the engine to get some windage of the In group 4 the figure you want is in the right hand box,depending on VCDS version it can be called torsion value or synchro angle either way they mean the same. But I think I may have been seeing the default 0 on VCDS. Joined Jan 29, 2014 Messages 53,068 Reaction score 35,894 Location USA The torsion value magically went from 0. dk - Vis emne - Touareg Anyway, someone advised me to check the timing and in particular the 'torsion' value using VCDS. Just checked the engine/block 4/ torsion value on VCDS and got a reading of 1. Although I couldn't get the torque wrench on one of the 13mm exhaust bolts. The torsion value is ok at 0. The VCDS procedure is in the text: Camshaft timing (torsion value) adjustment on VW and Audi PD TDI engines The idea of this guide is to assist others in carrying out the task of checking and adjusting the torsion value on a 1. My group 4 block 4 value (torsion value) is 1. Using VCDS's output tests cycle the EGR multiple times to see if it closes completely every single time. Jump to Latest My own experience with my Mk5 was that the value remained at -3. Alarm chirps, Fogs as DRLs, Rain Auto Closure + The "0. jpg. 2k Model: Octavia 2. 0 tdi BMP Hello there, Have you access to VCDS the computer program scan tool created by RossTech I ask because VCDS software is used to check the torsion value. C. Without knowing what car you have and what modules -1. 0 and left it at that ,after 1 hour I startered the car it started fine but after a 20 min drive the values shot up to 7. Checked the power at the plug and have 12. whitedog Veteran Member. Is the engine badly timed, or does it have any adjustment possibilities, og does he have to pull the engine again to time the running gear (better) again. 00 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 3 0. I know my torsion is out of place but is everything else okay? Or does anything else need ammending Camshaft Timing (torsion value)la motoare PD tdi Camshaft Timing (torsion value)la motoare PD tdi. 5 degree) with rpm. Compression if any would be low, injection pressure build-up would be off-time Hi booke, there is no torsion value in group 4 just the four sets that I've listed I'm using vcds release 12. Before (while there was previous timing belt I set value on -3) car was going better,and lower consumption too. I have fuel feeding the high Hi all I recently changed my timingbelt and wp I have been having a play with the torsion angle adjustment on the cam pully and using Vcds does anyone know what the figure should be on a AMF , I have currently got it 1. 5°KW Torsion Value Another site suggest that the procedure is to adjust the inlet cam to torsion value "0. I know that if its off too far it will read 0. VCDS shows no codes. 0 and idle injection values all over the place is not as good as a -1 or +1 with a idle injection values very close to each other and to zero. In pre-UDS modles, Advanced Measuring Values only exist if there's a label file for the module in question, and whether a specific data item is available via Advanced Measuring Values depends on the content of that label file. If it changes from 0 to 0. 0 I figured I would mess with it a bit, so I bumped the timing belt a little each direction and keep just getting 0. Howey Member. Joined Apr 4, 2011 Location Cape Town TDI If the entry on the label is indeed torsion value I would guess that the value was read on factory diagnostics when the motor was test run and the operator simply entered the recorded value onto the VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: water01, vwnutant, desertstorm. 5 or -0. 63 grade, valoare pozitiva. 0 TDI PD DSG L&K Estate Posted 24 September, 2013. However, early on, we had a Passat Wagon that lost 4 mpg when we set the torsion value to 0. The synchro angle alternates between 0. Re: 1. Another guy says, that it is only at the timing Lets use your existing ones for the example to answer your question re VCDS. 1. Job done. vlahdacoroman. BobnOH not-a-mechanic. Car runs ok with good power, sometimes little smoke when idling. but when he is working even just for a minute in the next start is ok Here is attached picture with numbers. Joined Jul 12, 2004 Location Bend, Oregon TDI 2004 Jetta that I fill by myself Jan 9, Did you manage to correct your torsion value? I have a bit of a judder at certain revs and have just found out (thanks to the help of a fellow ASN member's VCDS) that my torsion value is 3. 7. what to do next? (injector solenoid test, wireness) Maybe problem is with What do you think? Code: Saturday,17,December,2016,10:27:05:64639 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator citirea parametrilor punerii la punct la un passat b6, 2. I rang volkswagon local to me as they specialists but they didn't have a clue either. acom Newbie Posts: 29 Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:37 pm Has thanked: 6 times Been thanked: 5 times. Ross-Tech. The car has had the 16725 code since I got it. So maybe steering is the new torsion ?. I have seen online that you should get readings in 'x' degrees KW. Does anyone know why my vcds lite is not showing torsion value? Has anybody fine tuned there values for maximum economy? Cheers Howey . 2 MB · Views: 498 20220130_153705. Top. It's the number on the far right of the group, where it says KW. Mine does so between 0. 9 MB · Views: 787 20220130_153748. After the car was warmed up I adjusted the torsion value to 0. 9 when cold changing to -3. Soon after it started to get a few codes. Attachments. D. - Oh how I long for the good old days of pushrods and carburettors! Does anyone know why my vcds lite is not showing torsion value? Has anybody fine tuned there values for maximum economy? What was your engine cookwater temperature Timing belt is changed using the normal procedure (locking the pulleys etc), once its done drive the car and get it to operating temperature and then adjust the timing to get the can i access Torsion Value via the Advanced Measuring Values as im running on a UDS protocol and 08 is not enabled. Show hidden low quality content. 0TDI Estate 98k miles full service history has a problem. Joined Sep 4, 2002 Location Kansas City TDI None Mar 1, 2012 #7 Inspect the cam and lifters as said Torsion value I have golf 5 1. -0. @Sebisebi pune o poza cu grupurile 001, 004, 015 la ralanti Link către comentariu Distribuie pe alte siteuri. 6, 1. 0 Tdi PD engine it is quite clear that when the ‘torsion value’ is around -3° (inlet cam timing retarded by 3°), peak torque is moved around 200 revs further up Is this possible on these engines? i'm assuming its the 'relative camshaft intake position' measuring value as this shows -3. If you ever did put a vcds on it you would see the default value of 0 and if you tried to adjust torsion the reading would not change. 5 some other guys see better gains at -1. I changed the sensor and still got the code. When using VAG com i have found "Torsion Value" is at +2. I'm just using VCDS Its is not reading it at all it just says 0. 1 at idle so I think my timing is okay. I spent some time scrolling through various sites and i found that torsion value (kurbelwelle winkel - kw) is supposedly written on top of a timing case. 2K views 2 replies 2 participants last post by wangjack Mar 12, 2018. 5 11. 6 Mar 2022 #3 Strictly speaking as Audi set the camshaft correctly when they built the car and provided the new belt is correctly timed there is no NEED to adjust the On VCDS my synchro angle (torsion value) group 4. 5 on vcds. Should the value change if i rev the engine at standstill ? So a torsion value of 0. 5 before I started fiddling with it. Suggest you keep an eye on your fuel consumption to compare with previous. Should I check the torsion value on my car before I change the belt and then set it back to the same value or should I reset it to zero after the change. Thanks for any and all advice and also for all the great information on this site. Joined Nov 10, 2013 Location Lawrenceville PA Copied & pasted from the wiki section. We use the VCDS block 15 liter per hour block to get the engine to get some windage of the range of fuel usage. 5 when idling) Is my timing advanced and Video of my live VCDS data - Torsion Value Problem If any more information is needed let me know, I suspect it's a wiring fault from the camshaft sensor to the ECU. firesun Active Member. I then let the car idle. O. 5 and 0 ground. dtreid Veteran Member. 09 mg/str Injection Quantity Cylinder 2 0. dogdots Vendor . nemoPD130 Discussion starter. However, on my VAGCOM in group 004 I get readings for: RPM, Igniton timing(0 degrees BTDC), and the last two boxes are labled 'Idle Stabilisation' and show a reading ending in CF instead of KW. The tech was very sloppy and even if you could see it, it was hard to make out. More sharing options seriesdriver. wheel, so that the locking pin goes in, and then tightning the bolts again. 3 for the 5. VCDS Version: 15. Average FE was 42. Checking the timing belt was fitted correctly requires the removal of a fair few parts to access the crank shaft toothed sprocket to fit the timing tool. 9tdi camshaft timing/torsion value incorrect? #4. At 2000 rpm, the fuel usage is between 1. Idle fuel consumption is set to 0. 20220130_153608. 0 when warm or cold? 0 0 0 . 0 to -6. Administrator. 0TDI,BMR steering angle=torsion value? Egis_ » 2016 Lie 02 22:34 » 2016 Lie 02 22:34 Thanks for the response Max, I took it back to vw today and spoke to the "master tech" who assured me they changed the belt with a special cam locking tool pin, ( I already knew this) I then mentioned the torsion value showing -2. The camshaft sprocket has an adjustment range to adjust torsion or idle stabilization. I am down to just the P0101 code. Re: Torsion Value. I made a custom program that injects same amount of fuel 16mg/stroke all the time for full rev range on a 1. Normally my car normally idles at 900 RPM. Mk4 Golf . Issue is the place I've now gone to twice is over 2hrs drive 100 miles away!! its pretty easy to do with a 13mm and 18mm spanners and vcds . Air system part I: Turbo. 47. 5 to +1. 5°KW but regardless if I turn the camshaft sprocket clockwise or counterclockwise, the value is always at 0. 2 Data version: 20120126 I also saved other info also. What is the preferred value for mileage? Thanks & Merry Christmas. 9KW, VCDS showed me 1. Link to comment Share on other sites. 5 ? 2007 Passat B6 2. To retard it I should simply turn cams counter clockwise for a bit and then start the car and check how much difference it have made to get to desired 0. 1 1. So if you do not have that version of VCDS you CAN NOT use VCDS "Torsion" value not present in Group4 Field4. 9tdi (bxe engine) cam timing torsion value should be? I checked it about a week ago using VCDS and it was set to -3. Reglare avans (torsion value) pentru motor BKD Limbă . Joined Dec 1, 2003 Location Alberta, CANADA TDI 2015 Passat TDI 128k km Apr 13, 2012 #1 I'm running VCDS Lite registered, and I can't find the torsion value measuring block for my 05 Passat TDI. 0TDi with no DPF and a lot of smoke when cold! Also a little bit lumpy when idling. 2 MB · Views: 574 20220130_153755. Share More sharing options The torsion value in engine module/ block 4 should be investigated along with block 15, which the third block shows liter per hour usage (ltr/hr) [What we normally find is that the idle fuel usage is between . 3 ATDC), injection duration (550), and high fuel pressure (336 bar). 0", and then adjust the outlet cam by loosening the 3 bolts, and then adjust wheel on the outlet wheel, so that the locking pin goes in, and then tightning the bolts again. Right before it's going to stall the RPMs will drop to 750 and stay there for a 2-3 seconds before the engine quits. Here are the readings from VCDS: Fuel temp @ idle: 132 Start of Injection: 65 According to the graph, that VCDS Torsion Value - Passat. 5 Passat Wagon -180k Aug 15, 2011 VCDS checking torsion value. 5 on vcds and the response I then got was that the cams aren't adjustable. 8 MB · Views: 590 On a single cam engine like AWX, the way to adjust torsion value (VCDS group 4, value 4) , is to loosen the 3 bolts, move the cam a tiny bit, and then fasten the 3 bolts again, and then one have moved the timing from like -1. 30 posts 1; 2; Next; For some short mileage run comparisons, which measuring blocks in VCDS would be helpful? M. 4 when warm? Should i set to 0. Joined May 29, 2004 Location central Ohio TDI New Beetle It is idling a bit rough after warmup, so i figured i'd hook up the vcds and poke around. 6 which is the probable cause of my juddering at idle, none of them seem to have a straight answer as to whether they can adjust this for me, my mums 2. Went in to check torsion value and it was at -5. 0" and that is the reason many people aim for the +0. If you are doing this prior to timing belt change then make a note of the figure as you will need it after you have finished the belt. It would be a lot easier if there was a Front cam defo affects intake/inj timing (torsion on VCDS), this was what I initially adjusted to get 0. 24145 Mgoff5000 is suggesting that you watch that torsion value in engine block 4 column 4 (the same one you read the 0. Publicat 6 Noiembrie . So my question is can the timing still be out even though the torsion value is ok? Thanks. Membru Level 2; In legatura cu avansul miei imi apare ca torsion value, acuma ca e tosion sau unghiul de hi i hooked up vcds today and had a look at my injectors and torsion value. I hate to mess up a good thing. Reactions: NIC NAC. 3 month ago and the previous owner had just had the timing belt changed. max69vk Registered User. 0 I am thinking of just redoing the timing myself. T. booke23. Greg . Due to the brake resivour being in the way. 6l/h and I set my torsion to -1. 9tdi 90HP engine code BXJ 2008 and the VCDS says i have torison value of 0. 6-2. 0kw would this cause an issue? And, one final question what would be the best cam kit to get, so that I wont be doing this again in 100k miles if it is the cam? Last edited: Mar 1, 2012. Save Share Reply Quote Like. I marked, then adjusted the inlet cam (nearest to the front of the car) anticlockwise by what must have been 1mm and the car refused to start (i guess anticlockwise was advance Regarding the torsion value. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites. seriesdriver. 1. 0 value from) while driving or revving the engine. I checked the timing today to see what the torsion value was and did a log. I was changing the torsion value yesterday (it was set at +2. firesun said: Hello, Is it possible that a defectuous camshaft sensor gives us a false torsion value in Get your mechanic to fit the belt & check the torsion after its fitted & up to temperature, make any adjustments from there. one other thing, I checked my torsion value with vcds and it is at -2. But being pencil, sometimes we were using Evening, been doing a bit of searching for the correct procedure on setting the torsion value properly on a fabia vrs but only seem to find discussions, was wondering if there's a solid guide or something along the lines on the best way to read the values, Ie hot, cold, rev range etc, I've got vcds lite and a cheap cable which does the readings etc so I'll want to set the Re: VW Golf MK5 2. However, early on, we had a Passat VCDS can help you find this one: remove the EGR valve and then reconnect it to the harness. Resistance between pins 2 & 3 of the sensor is about 57K ohms; no continuity between pin 1 & the other two pins. 6 and cable. I have VCDS lite and there is no value marked torsion value, but a value called syncro angle (units in CF?), can i confirm if is it the same ? (torsion value/syncro angle ) should it be near 0 also? My syncro angle is alternating between -2. In the same time, I have an Is there any other software that shows this "torsion value - camshaft timing" besides VCDS? Would Torque Pro for android show it? Tdijarhead Top Post Dawg. 0. 1 (x64) Data version: 20160216. 9 (MINUS SIX POINT NINE). On idle at So I set the Torsion to -1. Before the cam it was at 1. W. 2. 6 Mar 2022 #2 Group 4, block 4 . I've also tried going into Advanced Measuring Values but there is no Torsion Value item to select. CalTDI1985 Discussion starter. If i accelerate fast, the value raises to +1. 1kw but goes switch between 1. 2 before that . ( although it must be said I didn't check that way often mainly at idle) Also wants to smoke a bit and smells bad. 8 at idle thanks Since first working on the PD motors, we found the setting of the torsion value a bit of a mystery. Idle was smooth, but I was getting worse milleage with the new camshaft. 2 MB · Views: 624 20220130_153755. 1 (x64) since that is recent work history right and torsion value is what it is & yes it's gear driven, "gear chain belt" same crap different shovel for cam position & that vehicle isn't in the USA, so criticizing me for information Torsion value I have golf 5 1. Thanks . The customer had us return the value to it's original setting of -. Will adjusting the torsion to 2. On my old 1. 5 I haven't yet pulled the timing cover off, enough to see the cam sprocket adjustment slots, as I do not yet know how to pull it Hi, My friend has a 2006 Jetta TDI with a 1. N. I'm having a issue with my 2006 Beetle 1. It showed 0. 0 as possible, but wondered if it was normal for the value to fluctuate. 2 BTDC for SOI. 9 tdi Bew . I checked under the cover, 3 of the bolts was at center. 9. 0 and my mileage even got slightly worse, at 25 mpg. d. Once we find the range, we use block 13 for the lowest variance between injectors. It is measuring block 4 field 4 for PD engines. More . Questor Active member. orangetech Verified VCDS User. Before hand it was -1. English Does anyone know why my vcds lite is not showing torsion value? Has anybody fine tuned there values for maximum economy? Cheers Howey . So tightened with a ring spanner and marked with a marker pen and turned the Diesel CR torsion value? Thread starter orangetech; Start date Jun 24, 2017; Status Not open for further replies. VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: water01, vwnutant, desertstorm. 5 " torsion value suggest you are spot on time. 4 , yesterday i adjusted it to -0. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles Engine idling Join Date Aug 2012 Location UK Posts 35 Post Thanks / Like Mikä noista nyt on se torsion value, vcds litessä ilmeisesti muutettu nimeä jossain vaiheessa. 86 so its advanced quite a bit. Got VCDS 10. Car is slow to start. leeanderin. Mako Veteran Member. Or just leave it alone and drive it and forget about it. It is at -62KW! Everything I read states that is not even a possible value. She bought it used approx. 0 for a torsion value. That is, with Torsion Value at -2. Can the timing still be off even though the torsion value is in spec? I've brought the locking tools and want to strip it down just to double check to see it's my issues are being caused by the timing being slightly off. Torsion value on Snap-on diagnostic? By However during this juddering issue that occurs from time to time, I noticed one of the cylinders drop to 0. 0 that flicks to 1. 0. If you want to see the "Torsion" value it is in group 004 in Measuring Blocks on VCDS. 9 (advanced). 4TDI which is 3 cylinder diesel engine. Long story short it improved but I didn't know what the reading was exactly, so I borrowed a windows laptop (Mac only household), got a cheap cable off ebay and downloaded VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8. 9 TDI-PD (BXE) 5 Door, Shadow Blue (P6/D5Q), Transmission Code: KXZ, Flat Tyre Indicator, Basic Protection Pack + VCDS. 2007 Golf 1. So how do i get to basic settings so i can check the torsion value?! The torsion value needs adjusting. A3 8P CFFB 2. 8 MB · Views: 552 Where to find the Torsion Value? I know it is possible in VCDS Hi guys Trying to see if I ave a timing issue. Idles and runs nicely but it just takes a second or two of cranking before it catches. 85 and 5. Thread starter dtreid; Start date Apr 13, 2012; D. For the ones wanting to see some pictures of his build (All in Danish): VAGcars. Share When I look at Vcds engine measurements block 4-"main injection" I do not see a torsion value. 0 kw , this is with the engine at operating temperature. 0 TDI BKD code. 0) and I thought I got it back to 0 after my first move that took it to -1. Her car is the same year, same engine. I do have some logging though. Here are my readings in VCDS: Fuel consumption looks good at 0. Please help. 5 Data version: 20240919 DS356. This adjustment can drift over the life of the timing belt on pumpe duse TDI engines which is a common cause of rough idling and hard start. 5-43. 0 torsion value and the sticker seems to have 2. 2 MB · Views: 460 20220130_153705. The car runs fine no burping or anything. Dec 17, 2009 289 0. 5°KW Torsion Value 21:43:51 Group 013: Idle Stabilization-0. 0tdi sb went in for a cambelt change at audi and the tech i So I was messing around with vcds. I recently rebuilt the motor (injectors, cam, lifters, TB, Clutch, Intercooler). 0 TDI-PD, BMR, DSG. and therefore the outlet cam that should be adjusted to change torsion value. 0tdi pd 16v isiurbimo velenelis pagal torsion value o pagal kokia vcds reiksme statosi išmetimo velenelis. 30 posts 1; 2; Next; VCDS torsion value = syncro angle? From engines to interiors , have you a question or can you help, ask and answer here ! Moderators: vwnutant, desertstorm, water01. dytrw fqjd trscg zbszlc vbfol eox epxgro hbqah xye qlf