Gpu reball ps3 ps4 reddit Posted by u/MrBiscuits275 - 4 votes and 2 comments ps3 has more vauleu then a ps4 and ps5 you can play online for free, play anykind of ps3 games, play tons of ps2 games and ps1 as well so in value with ps5 vs ps3, ps5 you get 2 generations that can playy both ps4 and ps5 games but everything else streamed and ps3 you can play, ps3, ps2 and ps1 games without streaming them so you got 3 consoles in one This first began happening in 2014 so I bought a PS3 Slim and have kept my Phat boy around to play PS1 and PS2 games which still seem to run just fine. Mar 6, 2018 · I think it might need a GPU reballing. If it was trully just cracked solder balls, good reball would fix the issue for good. Do one thing, turn on your PS4, check of the fans spinning, let it be for like 10 minutes, and check if your PS4 is overheating (by touching the bottom and top , you'll know if it's a bit more hot than normal. It turns on as per usual but when connected to a monitor, there is no video output. It's quite likely that the PS3 suffered from the same problem, and the only reliable way to truly fix it is replacing (not reballing!) the GPU with a new one. Faster loading, more capabilities for improved performance. This is after thermal paste and heating CPU/GPU 3 months ago any ideas? Opened it up again cleaned it and repeated what I did the first time samething :/ Had that happen on 1st run ps4. I assumed like PS4, that it was done automatically. o The PS3 produces a shit load of heat. The chips (and motherboards) are designed for one go at this temperature as a brand new chip. This would be the superior one in terms of features IMO if it had a Wi-Fi adapter in it. now sometimes you'r going to get a loud fan since the jaguar CPU is being overworked on some titles, but you can absolutely reduce this with a better compound. Now, obviously a hair dryer can't melt solder, therefore solder is not the issue (It was in the 360, and in some rare cases the ps3) the extreme heat of the ps3 warps the wafer inside the die of the RSX, and the hair dryer warps it back, but it's temporary, and so is a reball. The PlayStation 3 Subreddit (PS3, PlayStation3, Sony PlayStation 3). 00 fw and is jailbroken. From hardcore gamers, to, Nintendo fans… sorry to bump this 5y later, but the reason they drop the ps4 pro GPU clocks lower than the 480 is because the ps4 pro has a very small power supply as well as a small heatsink/fan which means the ps4 pro isn't powerful enough to push a full RX480 nor could it keep it cool enough. Reflows are not repair and a reball may not be worth it for what could be a dead GPU. I know firsthand that the caps can be bad as I had a PS3 professionally reballed with leaded solder (reballed properly, not a reflow in disguise) and it worked for a year then star Hi all, I've got a PS3 Slim with errors 3034, 4002 and 4401, so I decided to try and reball the RSX. In fact, most "professionals" can't even do it. Luckily I had it under warranty, it was overheating, had some problem in the motherboard. Posted by u/tynamic77 - 3 votes and 2 comments reballing is also infamous for poor reliability on PS3s and other electronics with GPU failures alike as they are mostly just temporarily fixing the GPU flipchip bumps coming loose / or other problems with extreme heat, rendering them fragile in the process A bit of background about my PS4 slim: I bought it a year ago and used it for more than 8 months. Is there a lifespan of PS4N after reballing, can you know hos much it will last after repairing? Because i've heard that when PS4 reaches the higher temperature, the reballing progress starts to melt. I haven't done a PS3 reball myself, but when I got one of my systems reballed a few years ago, I had to get a replacement RSX and that was all it took to get the console up and running. There aren’t many exclusive games so far though, that’s true. In most cases the Failing part is Either CELL(CPU)/RSX(GPU) or Nectokin Capacitors providing power to CPU and GPU. are not immune. I have a 11 year old PS3 Slim with a dead GPU. 480p was mostly okay with screen tearing every now and then. *The 360 has the option to download the entire game to the storage device, and only reads the disc to verify you have the game. Either the gpu or display port are broken. The PS3 GPU is custom and won't even work with standard PC hardware because it relies on the PS3 components to work. com/playstation3-gpu-reballing-service/ But the site is so riddled with spelling and grammar errors that I have to question their professionalism. The temperatures required to remove and reball are 3x higher than it's working temperature. PS3 was repasted with MX4 last year, and as I have said this would happen randomly. I turned it on got to the Home Screen for 30 seconds screen went black and got RLOD. Heating it up might still "fix" it for awhile and if you're really lucky it might last a long time but on average the failure rate is going to be crazy high because it's not real fix and there's no way to properly repair those internal solder bumps. I’ve had my PS3’s since launch, though I never had PS+ until the PS4 released so I didn’t have any hands on with it until then. There are times that my ps4 was turned off improperly due to power outage, fluctuations and my brother unplugging the power cord when the ps4 is still running. Hello, my PS4 PRO is having a reball, because i had BLOD. It’s just a new console. We know they can have BGA defects. Yellow light of death basically it means general hardware failure so it could be a lot of things like gpu/cpu dying or npc tokens failing or power supply not looking hot, if you changed the thermal paste and didn't do much then you probably have to send it for repairs bc it might need reball treatment, personally if this isn't a backwards The PlayStation 3 Subreddit (PS3, PlayStation3, Sony PlayStation 3). 188K subscribers in the PS3 community. I think it actually is better. This was a mistake on my part and I now have it set up on all my PS3’s. If only the PS3 had that as well :( This exact same issue with the exact same chip caused the RROD on the 360 ( this was recently discovered ) a reflow will temporarily fix this isue, but to solve it forever is to replace the 65mn gpu chip with 45mn model used in the PS3 slim. All are welcome in /r/PS3. From hardcore… I recieve many consoles for repair that have loud fans. 193K subscribers in the PS3 community. PS: Reballing wont do you any good, if the GPU its showing Graphical Artifacts, then only a new RSX chip is in place, reballing a dead chip, will eventually 182K subscribers in the PS3 community. I've seen plently that claimed they got a reball but they didnt; I start with a reball as long as it isnt a unopened no video system. Tengo el famoso problema de la luz azul en mi PS4, con la cual el equipo tiende a partir pero se queda en el intento y no logra arrancar. Apply Liquid flux so it flows underneath the gpu Hook up two temp sensors around the gpu, touching the board. Get app Mar 21, 2018 · Does anyone have a recommendation for a trustworthy PS3 fatty reballing service? This is the first google hit I get: http://www. Try the analog video out port, if it is garbled like this too then it's your GPU causing the issue. Do you know if it’d normally display anything without a HDD? I tried two drives; one from my current PS4 and another one that I know had a few issues and obviously neither of them worked. From hardcore gamers, to, Nintendo fans… Gotcha, my reball service isn't cheap and for that reason I might have steered you away from it! Mainly just doing the backwards compatible ps3 consoles since they are worth around 800-1000 after replacing with a newer GPU. He escuchado que les hacen un proceso llamado reballing. The xbox consoles dont seem to be worth much before or after reball/replacement so its kind of a lot of money. We've seen oxidized balls while reballing them! What's less clear is how many of these consoles met their fate from BumpGate! Apr 5, 2021 · Changing ps4 hdmi port is worst thing ever for me, far worst then reball cpu and gpu in ps3. Reply forzenny All your PS3 are belong to us • Extra: If she ever does YLOD, look for someone who can reball it but ask them to replace the whole GPU with one from a newer model. Can anyone recommend a service for that? I looked up online, but some places have very mixed reviews. Applying pressure to the chip with a penny on top might temporarily get it to boot but overall it's going to need a reball which would cost more than just buying another ps3. I used a pre-warmer table made from an electric griddle to warm the entire board to 120-150C, it makes heating and desoldering the NEC/TOKIN caps much MUCH easier using a hot air station and some tweezers. It was actually the router, and traveled in through the ethernet. You must either reball or change the gpu along with cleaning and thermal paste together, if you really want your fat to work for longer time because of nostalgia, change the gpu, but you might need to consider about the For your gaming needs keep using a PS4 or try to get a PS5 under 5-600 bucks max cause you'll get the same or better performance than any GPU that costs the same price. And buying a 200 or 300 dollar gpu right now even used is just the dumbest thing I can think of because you won't get anything worth using for a while. I remember when I first started doing the 360s reflow/reball I wasnt very familiar with the process, I purchased motherboard standoff support jigs for 360 and PS3 fat, I bought this big square griddle from target, man it worked so great for preaheat, Id attach my thermal coupler near the gpu n set the griddle to max, worked like a charm, I applied kester 951 n that made that solder flow nice Reballing the chip would be much better but I've heard from several technicians that doing so is also a hit or miss situation because of the proximity of the RSX from other important chips such as the Cell processor itself, which can be affected in the process because of the heat applied, and reballing the Cell may damage it internally, leading 205K subscribers in the PS3 community. reballing doesnt actually fix the issue. Of the top of my head I would say that 90% of the laptops that had a reball came back after a few months. I think reballing the CPU and GPU would fix it but I’d have to look into it. the specialized machines that melt the solder during manufacture are very precise on how much heat they apply and for how long, look at his graph to figure out what targets you should try to replicate with the "oven" at home. Oct 21, 2018 · I recently found e-retrogaming on ebay (https://www. I just had a syscon reading done on it: bad BGA joints under the GPU. Used it moderately, then YLOD. As long as you have matching revision GPU you're good to go. Second unless you're on Linux, Nvdia cards are far superior at running rpcs3. Console repair is my hobby but I have never done a reball before. I have a ps3 CECHL01 fat model from March 2009 it's one of last ever made because the slim came out September of that year it runs great now another topic is it true the launch 60gb has a higher failure rate than the 80gb backwards compatible model the CECHE01 metal gear solid 4 bundle was 80gb backwards compatible model august 2008. You never know if a dropped ps4 will ever work after reball. Unfortunately it only has a Ethernet LAN to connect to networks. From what I understand they had to remove something from the solder to make it safe for the environment. I'm considering sending in my (recently YLOD) PS3 in to get repaired. The main problem is the thermal paste between the chip lid and heat sink can turn into a hard chalky substance over time. More than a regular desktop computer. One of the places I am in contact with says this: "We have found that the reflow is just as effective as a reball in terms of being a temporary repair while also being more cost-effective and time-efficient for both our customers and us. Does anyone have a recommendation for a trustworthy PS3 fatty reballing service? This is the first google hit I get: http://www. com/usr/e-retrogaming?_trksid=p2047675. In other words, a Phat PS3 with a gpu from a Slim PS3. it will evetually die again. 195K subscribers in the PS3 community. They both have the YLOD issue. . I don't know what you have done for pre heating (most will suggest you pre heat the board before playing with IR reballing stations). The real issue is chip substrate that fails, which does get "fixed" when you reflow or reball the chip. Call local electronic repair shops and ask if they do reballing, if they don't know what reballing is just hang up and move down the list. At the time of the first gen ps3 they hadn't really a good replacement for it yet. the OG PS3 is a media swiss-army knife (plays all pre-PS4 PS games, plays music, videos, and photos directly from the hard drive, prints photos from memory cards, and plays CDs, all things the PS4 couldn't do) but they're so fragile. All these heat cycles causes the board to expand and contract. Uncharted 3, God of War 3) and sometimes it will freeze like this straight away. From hardcore gamers, to, Nintendo fans… At the time, I had never used PS+ Cloud Saves on PS3. r/PS3 A chip A close button. The CECHA01 is definitely on its last leg as PS3 games frequently cause the PS3 to restart. Console manufacturers tend to use cheap paste that hardens after 10 years, so it's important to change it out with something that can stay gooey Feb 16, 2016 · A few years ago the reballing and reflowing business only gave me head headaches as it didn't work. I bought a PS4 but the system was on rough shape and i beber could connect it to the internet because of the errors. I refuse to reball or reflow them and the ones that get their gpu replaced are above 90% working 1 year later and I'm talking about 40-50 GLOD isnt quite synonymous with a GPU Problem, although its quite related with the RSX itself,but there are still various things that can provoke a GLOD without being the GPU necessarily. I've fixed countless systems from them and have NEVER seen a reballed console. It’s just diminishing marginal returns re: tech vs graphical fidelity. I also own a PS3 Super slim ( works perfect) and PS3 CECHA01 that was also reballed from ebay. Same can be said for the 360. From hardcore gamers, to, Nintendo fans… The caps can be an issue but yes people jump to conclusions when they get YLOD and assume the caps are failing first. I have a PS3 CECHB01 that outputs video just fine over component cables but glitches out of sync when using HDMI and freezes the PS3 before the UI loads. That said, I did have all three serviced by opening them up, cleaning up any debris/dust, new thermal paste, and a full GPU reball. Unless you somehow where to reverse engineer the entire PS3 hardware you aren't doing anything with it. Hi everyone, so I recently ended up with a couple of original PS3's. Back in the 360 RLOD days, when I first started reballing (ended up with an IR station), I modded a panini grill press with bolt mounts for the 360 motherboard as a pre heater, used a hot air station with gpu sized nozzle mounted on a modded swing arm from a lamp and a temperature meter. an useful piece of additional information for anyone considering those types of repair is the how to manage temperature and time. 48 votes, 38 comments. 9 out of ten times this can be solved by replacing the thermal compound with a silver based compound. remember, an RX480 is a PC graphics card which means it has its own full heatsink and fan, and also runs off a PC First, ps3 emulation is VERY demanding on the cpu, but you'll want a 2080 or higher class GPU. PS3 Slim 25xx or 30xx is your best bet. I read that reballing the GPU is not a reliable method of repair and that a proper repair requires a professional and is quite expensive. The ps4 just died on me while playing A Plague It was One of my best in years. Queria preguntar si alguien tiene experiencia al respecto y donde lo llevaron para que lo repararan? Y cual seria el precio estimado? No, there's no "video card" in the PS3 to be removed and reused elsewhere, it's a soldered in place chip. e. From hardcore gamers, to, Nintendo fans… The reverse compatible dumpster ps3 gave out today. Over time, traces pull up and solder joints crack. From hardcore… I also made a custom brace that holds the ps3 mobo; it also lowers the ps3 mobo closer to the hot plate. ebay seller warranty already expired. It is completely random, sometimes I can be gaming for hours (even in resource intensive games, i. The original PS3’s have 90NM RSX which are more power hungry, less reliable and they run hotter, but you can now install a 65nm and 40nm RSX gpu from later model PS3’s into an original backwards compatible PS3. dude seriously thoi been dealing w these same issues nd i feel like most of the ps3's on ebay are just for parts or mad expensive even went to a game store earlier they were tryna charge $250 for a phat model ps3not sure how many GB but no matter what i dont see a reason for such prices especially they had ps4's for 196K subscribers in the PS3 community. Definitely no, from the video it is ylod issue because it is the same as my fat and this is very popular issue among ps3 fat. And eventually a reball is better. As long as you get the right model for the board, it'll be good to go. I will see later Dec 30, 2024 · I don't know if the PS3 varies in CPU or GPU thickness between different models which means different times heating. I tried 7 different known good displays (we have a lot of tvs and pc monitors in this house) and 6 different known good hdmi cables. If a GPU displays artifacts, never, and i repeat, never reball the same GPU under any circumstances, not only the substrate is done for, reball it will solve nothing, you'll have to find a PS3 for spare parts and replace it, which involves reballing of course, you need to get the same 90nm RSX ranging from the early A Models all the way to the G Model, which still spots the 90nm RSX, the My PS3 has started to behave like this for approximately the last year. 720 was okayish but still fuzzy and weird colors. Those who experienced similar problems say it's due to a dead GPU. From hardcore… Hi all! I just bought a PS3 60GB Australia model (CECHC-02). Happy to help, the most important part of replacing them is removing the original capacitors without damaging the pads underneath. Thanks. At this point, I've decided that I will use my PS3 super slim unhacked and for ps3 games only. I've just sent it in for a clean and to get new thermal paste and GPU reballing. Unlike the 360*, the PS3 mainly reads from the disc (so a clean bluray player is essential). I'm about to buy a 1TB HDD or SSD and on the lookout for a 19 blade fan. With the Xbox 360 is was mainly internal solder bumps that were failing, not the external bga. Does anyone have personal feedback on them though? Long Answer: Reballing is not really preventative maintenance. Too bad Sony won't tell. It Only Does Everything. the most commom GPU problem, is the melt of the original chip solder balls, induced by excessive use, or a lack of ventilation in the video card, what can cause artifacts on screen, or a totally black screen, the reballing is a process consisting in "remake" these chip solders, in the video below, Nik Telio show how this process work (srry my english is not my motherlanguage) 34 votes, 26 comments. Third RPCS3 is still considered in an alpha state, therefore game compatibility and speed are unpredictable. ebay. 1080p was almost impossible to decipher anything. If you exhaust all of them, call PC repair shops and ask them. Tested all cables and tv; everything checked out fine. From hardcore gamers, to, Nintendo fans, Xbox gamers, PS5 converts, and everything in between. The motherboard can only take so much stress like a reball or reflow. So i bought it to a repair place. It’s normal and to be expected. All PS3 consoles, PS4, PS5, Wii, Wii U, Xbox, Xbox One, etc. Once you applied pressure, or heated the console up the GPU would come back to life (sound fammiliar? Hairdrier trick, Penny mod, reflow or reball) temporarily. Does anyone have personal feedback on them though? Oct 4, 2022 · Long Answer: Reballing is not really preventative maintenance. if the Failing part is one of these IT is fixable by skilled technician that knows how to reball/reflow(i would personally avoid reflows because of how short the device is working after repair) A reball isn't something that the average PS4 owner can do. Seems there's no real permanent fix but before I spend a weekend setting up a reball procedure on my PS3, I was hoping maybe there are places to buy a GPU already ready and I just use a heat gun to reset it to the motherboard. Reballing would be removing the GPU die entirely, cleansing the bottom, using a stencil with fresh solder balls, cleaning the board of old solder and then soldering the GPU die back in place. The problems aren’t too bad, I’ve still occasionally played PS3 games on it over the past 8 years and some games run just fine, others have issues. That said, it is a gamble to buy a fat PS3, especially since any launch PS3 has been around for 10+ years, and chances are it has a lot of miles (ie hours) on its clock. It was deffinately the ps4. You reflowed the solder joints at best, or just heated up a funky connection internally enough for it to work again. It came with a 9. 209K subscribers in the PS3 community. Thank dude, yeah I always preferred the all back launch PS3 over the chromed out one. Is it possible to repair the GPU? Hola a todos. Afterwards, it would power on but get no output. PS3 probably $50-100 depending on the shop I was also recently searching for someone to do reball work on a PS3 I own, but there are only a couple of places that advertise on eBay and they all have poor grammar, are outside of the US (shipping would be a nightmare), or have reviews from some people about finding out their motherboards were swapped. I'm not trying to discourage you here, I just don't want you to ruin your PS4 when there is a good chance it can be fixed still. Some YLODs are caused by the power supply being faulty, others are caused by the shitty solder on the GPU, but the real problem is with the internals of the GPU itself. And the jump from PS3 to PS4 wasn’t as high as PS2 to PS3, which wasn’t as high as the jump from PS1 to PS2. I wanted to make this post to ask for suggestions since there is just too many things that may go wrong in the process, especially for a newbie like me. You can play pretty much all PS4 games on it. So the other dat my ps4 pro was a victim of a power surge. Getting it to a guy like ACE, Studio Halabi, or Computer Booter who can read syscon and determine what is specifically wrong is the best bet for proper repair. l2559) who seems like is ok, having sold 248 reball services. Now i will buy One PS4 pro arround june, July to add it to the family of many systems i have. The new reball services are supposed to replace that old crappy solder with something way better and more reliable. 63K subscribers in the consolerepair community. The price is a bit steep, but the PS4 was more expensive at some point too. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. ps3specialist. A YLOD for the first type of PS3 requires a complete reballing of the CPU Board in most cases and unless you have the hardware for this, "blowing in heat through the back vent" causes more damage to the internal components than it actually solves. 205K subscribers in the PS3 community. If no issues persist it is likely the HDMI encoder chip or port connection. So it's software emulation as opposed to the CECHA-01 in the US. I reball first, if it comes back in a few months I will reball it again and check how long it lasts. Not top of the line, but certainly not garbage for the time. My procedure is currently: Remove GPU heat spreader (heat/pry method) Clean Up Chip Adheasive with heat gun/scraper. since sony only uses a normal white compound. The 7870 (the PS4 has a custom APU, but the 7870 is the same GPU architecture and most comparable card) performs similarly to a 660Ti or 670 (a bit under a modern 1050). PS3 os active every day since 2007. Aug 26, 2022 · I'm trying to get an idea of whether or not the 90nm RSX in A-E BC models and G/H models are reliable. 30 votes, 15 comments. I recently found e-retrogaming on ebay (https://www. 93 votes, 73 comments. I've been reading about it and it seems like one fix is to replace the NEC Tokin capacitors with Tantalum ones, but looking at those capacitors they're crazy expensive. It's a shame. amacvx orw apmax etoh twsmwq scctup cpwjna wnhc zpv oevzmzk